[REGIME CHANGE] My Second Commercial PBM?

Started by Participant-Observer · Aug 13, 2017 02:35 UTC

#136524

Dear all,

I'm currently in Flying Buffalo's Riftlords but I'm looking to join one or more additional sci-fi PBMs. Agema's Regime Change looks pretty tempting.

I have a couple of quick questions:

  • As I understand it, turns are submitted every month and cost £10 (UK). Do I have this tight?
  • At this point in the campaign, how significant are most of the events in the first 8 audio files? Should I be listening to them with a notebook in hand or is their main value now to provide atmosphere?
  • Are you having fun? [Private Messages are OK for this answer.]
  • Anything else I should know?

All answers will be greatly appreciated!

Edited Aug 13, 2017 02:36 UTC

#136527

Links might be helpful, eh?

  • The main site: http://agema.org.uk/page36.html
  • The official message board: http://agema.darkbb.com/f8-regime-change
#136528

I posted the link to this thread over in the Agema forum, to try and get you some answers.

#136529

[quote='GrimFinger' pid='136528' dateline='1502593557']
I posted the link to this thread over in the Agema forum, to try and get you some answers.
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Thanks!

:cool:

#136531

I have a couple of quick questions:

As I understand it, turns are submitted every month and cost £10 (UK). Do I have this right?
Yes

At this point in the campaign, how significant are most of the events in the first 8 audio files? Should I be listening to them with a notebook in hand or is their main value now to provide atmosphere?        
They set the scene for the game for every one.  As a new position you should get a brief overlay of the situation I would imagine.

Are you having fun? [Private Messages are OK for this answer.]
Not currently playing this as my first love is TGOK game but did play for a while and was pleasantly surprised by it.

Anything else I should know?
Come over and sign up on the forum and post away. I am sure other players will respond with more answers on the game.

Edited Aug 13, 2017 12:48 UTC

#136532

[quote='Toppers' pid='136531' dateline='1502617018']
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Thanks for those answers. They're a big help!

I was rather hesitant to join another message board, before committing to the game itself. After years of battling proliferating board memberships, my turn to PBM is in danger of upsetting my previously carefully maintained online equilibrium (if that makes sense).

Anyone else with comments?

#136534

[quote='Participant-Observer' pid='136532' dateline='1502628219']
Thanks for those answers. They're a big help!

I was rather hesitant to join another message board, before committing to the game itself. After years of battling proliferating board memberships, my turn to PBM is in danger of upsetting my previously carefully maintained online equilibrium (if that makes sense).

Anyone else with comments?
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I edited Topper's response, just so that it will stand out a bit more for future readers that come across it.

That aside, I haven't played Regime Change. I haven't played any of Agema's games, in fact, even though I have been tempted by them many times, particularly Scramble for Empire. I do understand your concern over upsetting what you term your "carefully maintained online equilibrium." Maybe that's what I've been seeking - online equilibrium. In other words, a positive and sustainable balance of time and online activity.

Unfortunately, though, I live in the real world, and so the real world always plays havoc with my aspirations about achieving, much less maintaining, anything even remotely resembling online equilibrium. Be that as it may, here is some feedback from me, some food for thought, if you will:

1. The alternative to using yet another forum, in this case, the Agema forum, is what, realistically speaking? Certainly, it would be nice if there was a healthy, robust, and ongoing discussion about Agema's various games over on this forum, and while that still might happen someday, I'm not so sure that it is likely to happen anytime soon, simply based upon history to date. So, it seems to me that you either avail yourself of the Agema forum, or you don't - and if you're going to play Regime Change, it might be to both your benefit and your interest to do so.

2. If you're thinking about playing Regime Change, then obviously, you are looking to try something new. If that is the case, then why not go all in, which would include both playing the game of Regime Change, and interacting more directly in the midst of the existing Agema community of players which is concentrated in the Agema forum and not here.

3. What size is the Agema community of players, currently, and more importantly to you in the near term, how large is the Regime Change player base? I dare say that you can get a better feel for answers to those questions by exploring the Agema forum for yourself. My gut feeling is that the Agema player community, overall, isn't huge. But, size alone, in terms of quantity of numbers, while a relevant factor, should not necessarily automatically be the deciding factor. What you're after, I suspect, is a hearty game experience, one robust with the fun factor. You want lots of fun. Games are a form of entertainment, and these days, there's an awful lot of different forms of entertainment that can be used to fill the hours of your clock. Your hours are going to be consumed some way, no matter what you do, though, or whether you do nothing, at all.

4. More gut feeling for you, here, but I think that one of the primary things that Agema's games have going for them (in spite of my lack of first hand experience actually playing any of their games) is the hand-moderated aspect of at least some of their games. Computer-moderated games bring efficiency to the processing end of things. Computer-moderated games tend to feature less mistakes as part of one's overall gaming experience with them. But when you toss a human being into the mix, what you tend to gain is a net boost in the creativity aspect of the gaming experience.

5. Ask yourself how many games that Agema is running, simultaneously, at present? How many game moderators are involved in the processing of their game turns for their various games, and particularly for Regime Change, since that is what has caught your eye, apparently? How frequently or infrequently does turn processing occur? This is all relevant to the gaming experience that you will be subjecting yourself to.

6. Agema has been in business for a long time. So, they are likely to be going nowhere anytime soon. This indicates that they have a degree of stability to them as a game company.

7. Are you after something new to whet your gaming chops on, or are you after something that you've already experienced? If you don't try Agema's games, then how do you know that you won't like them? The key, I think, is to make an informed decision, rather than an uninformed one. Everyone doesn't like the same thing. Even over at Agema, all of their existing game players don't like the same thing. If they did, then Agema would only run one game, rather than offer a variety of different colorful choices.

8. I pretty much weaned myself off of e-mail a while back, and would (and still occasionally do) not even check e-mail for a couple of months or more on end, at some points. It seemed like a good idea, at the time. My point is this - You might want to rethink your whole proliferating board memberships issue. Obviously, if your use of message boards has been proliferating, then it seems that you must be looking for something. The core question is - What? Exactly and specifically, what are you looking for, if you know or have any clue? I ask this, because joining the Agema forum may not prove to be particularly problematic, and could, in fact, counter the proliferating board membership problem, simply by delivering unto you what it is that you are looking for? You're posting in this forum, and a lot of people - even a lot of PBM gamers, if not most PBM gamers - don't. So, what about this forum delivers something of value to you that warrants you being here and staying here? I suspect that it is something specific, in particular - and that may end up also being the case with the Agema forum, only something somewhat different and unique to that particular forum.

Not sure if you will find any of this to be helpful, but I thought that I would toss some feedback your way about this matter. Happy gaming!

Edited Aug 13, 2017 14:05 UTC

#136535

[quote='Participant-Observer' pid='136532' dateline='1502628219']
Anyone else with comments?
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Also, you might want to allow for more time to pass, so that others will actually encounter your posting and then be able to respond to it.

#136538

there is a Guy called Deacon on our site who plays it says he has tried to reply here but could not

#136539

[quote='Toppers' pid='136538' dateline='1502780526']
there is a Guy called Deacon on our site who plays it says he has tried to reply here but could not
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That's probably because he had just registered. The delay is one of the ways that we try to weed out spambot accounts from overtaking the forum. Of late, the forum has enjoyed a reprieve from them, event though it is open to the unregistered general public to view at their leisure. I don't like having the delay, but more than once in the past, the spambots came roaming and posting like crazy, and they make the forum virtually unusable, when they do that.

The name of Deacon rang a bell. I went ahead and activated his account and set him at subscriber level, which should preserve his account, even if I end up deleting old registered users who no longer visit the forum, from time to time. I'll send him an e-mail and let him know that his account, here, has been activated.

#136540

My wife and I are playing Regime change together as a team for a while, turn 10ish?

I joined the game after the audio files weren't being used any more. I haven't ever listened to them, don't see anything in game that suggests I'm missing anything.

To us, the game is playing a bit like a hand-moderated (as it is) classic space opera. We're fleeing the area of earth, and our ship has just been boarded by aliens that we're gong to have to try to figure out how to defeat.

Turn around time is about 3 weeks to a month depending upon how backed up the GM is. A typical turn is 10 pounds. You can apparently do more than that, but we never have. This is very unlike Agema's better known game "The Glory of Kings" where going over 10 pounds is trivial.

Yes, I'm having fun.

Happy to try to answer more questions. The Regime Change section of the Agema board doesn't really have any activity, so I don't think you're missing much by not engaging over there. The Glory boards are relatively active on the other hand.

#136541

Post a piece of your turn results! We are curious!

#136542

thxs will let him know

#136543

I've attached the newspaper from last July when I got our startup and my startup (my wife got her own sheet.)

I had to import the startup into word to edit it (remove account info), and save it as a pdf, so if the formatting is slightly messed up that's why.

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#136544

Gah! I was away from the board for a couple of days and this suddenly took off!!

Thanks for all this, everyone. It's very helpful.

Regime Change sounds increasingly tempting. I probably am after something closer to an old-fashioned ongoing hand-moderated RPG PBM (I've been trying unsuccessfully to track down the GM for Exile) than the strategic games in which there's a victor and definite end.

As Charles points out, Agema have been around for a while, so (as long as we can keep enough players playing) there's a good chance that this game will be too.

#136545

I too tried to reach the GM for exile several times over the last year or two, no luck.

Regime change is the only commercial hand-moderated RPG around that I've found. You could also explore the glory of kings as a RPG. I do a fair bit on my turns. It is designed more as a strategic war/building game I think, but it is very flexible so works well for roleplay. The rules of regime change are designed specifically with character advancement/RPG in mind, though.

I'd encourage you to give Agema games a try. They run great games.

#136550

[quote='Deacon' pid='136545' dateline='1502917905']
I'd encourage you to give Agema games a try. They run great games.
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I think I may just do that.

Just as soon as my next credit card cycle starts.

:angel: ( :D )